and we want spectacular views, if we're to stay til the morning.

[intrikate88]

There were things I liked about this episode.

I absolutely loved the Han Solo Bar and the Doctor giving Jack tips on picking up Alonso; I don't even know what that bar is, the Meta-Who Cantina or something, but EVERY BAR SHOULD HAVE AN ADIPOSE WOBBLING OFF IT.

"Worst. Rescue. EVER."

LOVED the Rose scene. OMG. So adorable. I love that she smiled like that girl I remember from series one and that he could see her like that, already looking around her in wonder and he knows she'll be the hand reaching for his when he needs it. Her talking with Jackie was brilliant, too.

Verity probably isn't the Doctor's illegitimate granddaughter. But it's a fun thought, isn't it? 

Oh, Sarah Jane. I think she knew what was going on. Because she knows the Doctor and he wouldn't pop in just for tea and the world clearly wasn't ending so therefore he must be regenerating. It's sad, but I think she'll see him again. And I'm glad- they both need that.

I'm totally WTFing over Martha/Mickey, even though I did expect it: Martha/Tom couldn't have lasted as you may have noticed RTD tends to permanently separate if not actually kill every single interracial couple on this show. I do not have high hopes for the future of the five-second relationship we saw with Donna and her new husband. However, the Martha And Mickey Are Alien Bounty Hunters Show is probably a hell of a lot of fun and I would watch it.

There were also many, many things I did not particularly care for this episode.

LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WAS A GIANT FUCKING SAUSAGEFEST.

It was like every slashfic RTD wrote when he was fifteen, all wrapped up into one. In fact, according to Wikipedia,

 

Davies described the story as "huge and epic, but also intimate." Davies had been planning the story for some time, indicating that it continued the trend of series finales being progressively more dramatic:

“	I knew I'd write David's last episode one day, so I've had this tucked away.

 

I don't know about you, but is anyone else getting horrible flashbacks to the epilogue of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when we all tasted the bitter remembrance of JK Rowling announcing that she had had the series ending written for years... and suddenly we all realized she essentially meant since she was fourteen and discovered fanfiction.net?

I really just felt let down by the whole tone of the episode. First, Ten is all obsessed with this prophecy about him, which is the sort of plot I hate; or maybe I'm just the only one who finds free agency to be more interesting than following predicted pathways. And Ten is, frankly, going hysterical. Angsting is one thing; this was, to me, a totally unattractive different thing.

See, when the Third Doctor kicked it, it was kind of the same situation. He got into a situation where he had been told he would be going somewhere to die and he was coming to see exactly the reason why he would do just that. He even knew how he would basically be irradiated and it would kill him. And he didn't go telling everyone IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE THAT I'M GOING TO DIE WHEN FRANKLY I JUST HAVE TOO MUCH TO DO TODAY, he just went ahead and did it. because it needed to be done.

The scene where he raged, raged against the dying of the light, etc, PROBABLY went to the top of the list for Douchebag!Ten moments. Wilf's just standing there while the Doctor seems to berate him for being the sort of idiot that would get him killed.

And I just wasn't satisfied with Donna's story. Or, frankly, the definition of okay that any of the ladies he checked up on had.

But really, it was the scene where he jumped out of the off-brand Firefly ship and crashed through the skylight. I don't even know what happened with the Timelords, honestly. It didn't make sense and I will watch it again but I just don't know. It was kind of a moment where the object of your infatuation who has finally asked you out for a drink goes picking his nose up to the second knuckle and then wipes boogers off on his jeans and you're just staring and appalled and realizing that you are completely not in love with him at all any more.

I don't know. If there was anything that would make me so hopeful for the potential of Eleven and Amy and ready to say goodbye to RTD's melodramatics... this was pretty much it.

Comments

[ohvienna.livejournal.com]

THIS ENTIRE REACTION POST. THIIS ALL THIS.

And Ten is, frankly, going hysterical. Angsting is one thing; this was, to me, a totally unattractive different thing.

And especially that!

It's 4am. Can't type. Must sleep. :)

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

I kind of want Nine to go and slap the shit out of him for being such a bitch. I seriously did not think I'd be like bring on Eleven, I am so over this, but...bring on Eleven, I'm ready for funtimes and maybe sensible stories and people smiling again and not falling through ceilings from spaceships?

[mareeana.livejournal.com]

ALL OF THIS! This was just like JK's epilogue, exactly!

and suddenly we all realized she essentially meant since she was fourteen and discovered fanfiction.net?

EXACTLY! So, so bad, so self-indulgent, blerg.

And I just wasn't satisfied with Donna's story.

She showed up, she fell asleep, she got married. SHE DID NOTHING AT ALL! Grrr.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Self-indulgent is exactly what it is! And the gratuitous emo, the running with slash potential, all of that- WE get the luxury of those options because we are fans with LJs. He no longer can hide with anonymity and explore those things, the MONEY he gets makes him have the responsibility of putting together a cohesive show. The sort of thing we saw last night... sorry, RTD, you shoulda done it on your own time, not company time.

Yeah, Donna did nothing. And I hate how after all the running around they did to protect her, the Doctor's all "oh yeah she has a backup defense by the way, it's all cool." So, he could do that, but he couldn't use that to give him time to fix her properly? She couldn't help them? What happened to all the strong women that have defined this entire fucking show for me?

[scornedsaint.livejournal.com]

I love that she smiled like that girl I remember from series one and that he could see her like that, already looking around her in wonder and he knows she'll be the hand reaching for his when he needs it.

I'm kind of sniffling just reading that.

LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WAS A GIANT FUCKING SAUSAGEFEST.

That was a little...odd. Because the show is SO about women, but then there were none. As with most things RTD-related, I feel like it was in no way intentional, just that once he gets an idea he cannot stop for anything.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Yeah, RTD has all the subtlety and inertia of an oncoming train, and it all just kind of spoodged out in this episode. Between Ten basically shitting himself the entire time and the lack of the strong women that have defined this show for me, the whole episode was kind of OOC. Just really off.

Oh, Rose. I've missed her, and the Rose that showed up in series four didn't seem anything like the Rose I originally fell in love with. It was so great to see her again, and know that she always was wonderful.

[yavie-namarie.livejournal.com]

"RTD has all the subtlety and inertia of an oncoming train"

Amen. Amen. Amen.

[hollywoodgrrl.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA! THIS POST IS MADE OUT OF LULZ AND TRUTHS!

Yeah, I still can't even bring myself to list all the wasted opportunities that were everywhere, everywhere, EVERYWHERE.

I think I'm gonna quote you from the above comment because that is my #1 reaction to the ep:

Between Ten basically shitting himself the entire time and the lack of the strong women that have defined this show for me, the whole episode was kind of OOC. Just really off.

IT WAS ENTIRELY OOC!!!!!!!!

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

I dunno, was Rusty just going IF I DO OBVIOUS TRIBUTES TO FIREFLY AND STAR WARS DO YOU THINK JOSS AND LUCAS WILL LET ME WORK WITH THEM WHEN I GET TO HOLLYWOOD??

This ep felt like such a disconnect and I'm so disappointed that's how I had to say goodbye to Ten. I wish it had been an ep distilled of every brilliant part of Ten's time and the most Doctor Who-ish Doctor Who ever.

Um... at least Donna's lack of story didn't screw up my latest Donna/Gene fic too much? I'm pretending that's consolation.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

I... *hides*

*peers out*

I loved it.

*hides again*

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

*attempts to lure out from hiding with cookies*

Tell me what you loved about it! I want to know because there WERE some really solid moments and I just felt like I was missing some sort of critical connection between them for it all to make sense and if I could see that maybe I wouldn't feel like I do about the mental breakdown of basically everyone. mrv3000 made some really awesome points about things coming full circle (http://mrv3000.livejournal.com/1005445.html) that help me have a more positive perspective but honestly, I want to keep trying to look at this from more angles to see what other ways it could work. And you generally have a good view for story strength so I respect that a lot.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

Oooo this are good entry what you done linked to.

*sentences*

Okay, a lot of my liking it was based on the full-circle-ness and the appropriateness of Ten's death in relation to his life. Of course it was Wilf. It HAD to be Wilf. It had to be saving one not-so-special man, not because anyone's forcing him, but because that's who he is. Saving the most ordinary people is what makes Ten Ten, and he KNOWS it -- if he'd refused and left Wilf to die, he wouldn't be himself anymore. He'd be a version of himself not even worth holding on to. And he knows that, even going into that raging raging speech. You can see it all over his face. He knows he's going to do it, and Wilf knows too (his protests were half-hearted at best), but he damn well wanted everyone to know that he wasn't happy about it. Not about saving Wilf, or even dying for Wilf, but for having to die at all -- and probably for being prophecied at, so he spent the past few years WATCHING FOR HIS OWN DEATH. I mean, fuck, I'd rage too.

The other thing, though, is that somehow Doctor/Master has replaced Doctor/Rose as my OTP (with or without sex, or even with or without snogging; possibly my BroTP??), and my entire viewing of this episode was colored by that. I was so angry with LotTL for leaving me SO GODDAM UNSATISFIED, and I wanted a satisfactory interaction between them. Not even an end, but SOME kind of resolution worthy of the Doctor and the only other surviving member of his species, with whom he's had this epic lifelong conflict. I wanted to see a connection. And for all that I loved Simm's master in season 3, THIS was what I'd been hoping for all along.

And I finally fucking GOT IT -- and then some. Not only was there epic, epic facetime between them, but there was animosity and sympathy and desperation and hope and anger and EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. And that scene where the Master is facing Rassilon, with the Doctor in the middle, and he's trying to worm his way into all of Rassilon's plans, just to live a little longer, while trying to figure out his role in this whole thing -- and then tells the Doctor to GET OUT OF THE WAY? Oh my fucking god. This is all of the Time Lord backstory that I sought (to no avail) in fanfic, tried to see between scenes and lines in the s3 finale, and never got. This was the answer to everything.

And yeah, it was self-indulgent and crazy and the plot had more holes than the freaking Bible, but that's RTD. His plots are ridiculous (with the possible exception of the entire season 1 arc), but his characters are so fucking true, and I love them.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Wilf- yes, I do think you're right and it was fitting for it to be him, the sort of little person that Ten was in the habit of saving. I also think that was kind of obnoxious that Wilf knocked like that when he should have known good and well that the Doctor sure as hell didn't want to hear four beats anymore, but that's me being petty. It's the amount of raging the Doctor does that troubles me; while YES, it isn't fair, and it especially isn't fair that he's killed by the horrible irony of always doing what he thought he had to do (kind of reminding me of ninamazing's story Hour Seventeen or whatever she's titling it now, dunno if you read that) and that is all some pretty strong character arcing. But at the same time, Ten has, since he lost Rose, done several purposefully suicidal things and lived despite himself, and at this point has followed his tradition of jettisoning everyone worthwhile in his life. What kind of life has he created for himself that he's making such a goddamn racket about clinging to? I love him, but it wasn't like he was talking about all the bridges he burned that he would totally fix if he wasn't about to die just then. It's not very sensitive of me, I know, I'm really not proud of that.

Doctor/Master- Okay, this I get. Well, it was a bit too ficcy and self-indulgent and let us go and prance through the days and suck each other's dicks and talk about our feelings and everything will be okay! for some of it, which is why I think RTD dug out his teenaged slashfic, but I guess that was probably an editing issue, not a story issue. And what you said about BroTPs plays into something I've been thinking about a bit lately.

I'm not really a slasher. Nothing against it, just never quite played into my needs for understanding characters through fandom. However, mostly because of reading Sherlock Holmes more lately, I am kind of a Holmes/Watson shipper, and a House/Wilson shipper for House MD by extension cause same thing basically. I don't think any of them are genuinely homosexual; I don't think they ever fucked or even snogged; I don't think THEIRLOVEISSOEPIC even. I DO think, though, and this applies to Doctor/Master as well, that all these people are so... quirky at best, irreparably damaged at worst, that they have molded each other into being the only person that will fit with them. No matter who else they love, who else they're attracted to, in the end, their puzzle pieces are only capable of fitting with each other. They have to keep coming together, they have to share life, they have to unshakably care for each other because that is the only person that can fit with them like that. And I think both of them knowing of the difficulties of time travel, the approaching crazy of being able to see that you can change anything but the universe will still end and everybody dies in the end just the same- that's shaped them to the point that yeah, maybe only they can really try to heal each other.

The scene with the Master, the Doctor, and the Time Lords- YES. I still haven't watched that scene again and still don't have a sweet clue what is going on. BUT it is heartbreaking to watch the Master be one step behind in realizing he's been used and never had a chance at all, and the Doctor trying to decide what choice he's going to make about this one person he has left- and yes, that was what I had been hoping for in LotTL too, and I'm glad to now have the perspective of being able to see what wasn't elaborated upon there.

the plot had more holes than the freaking Bible, but that's RTD. His plots are ridiculous

HAHAH I LOVE YOU. Sometimes I like the ridiculous plots, sometimes they just make me tired from the wishing for some subtlety.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

You've got a good point about suicidal!Ten -- but what suicidal things has he done since season 3? S3 was his post-Rose healing, and it's important that he was suicidal there, because it gave him something to bounce back from. I think Martha's world-saving, combined with the Master's refusal to regenerate just to spite him holy shit, gave him some much-needed perspective -- and by the time VotD rolled around, he was back to being his epic world-saving self. He ran on pure adrenaline in that episode, like he hadn't done for a long time, and that restored him a little. He was still Sad in s4, but Donna was able to save him from himself in a way that she probably wasn't even aware of. She wasn't ALL ABOUT HIM like Martha was, but she wanted to see how wonderful the universe was -- like he wanted to show her in Runaway Bride! She reminded him of what he'd always lived for. By the end of s4, he was okay again, AND he had Rose!closure to top it off.

Which brings us to the specials. Nowhere in the specials was he suicidal -- just the opposite, in fact. That arc was the process of him running from his own fucking-prophecied death, and becoming TOO wrapped up in himself (probably helped along by constant thoughts of "I don't want to die, I really like this self"), only to be shocked back to reality with Adelaide's suicide. Sure, he can be a hero who saves worlds at a time, but even he can only go so far. Then, THE END OF TIME starts. The Master is back -- the person who we always thought was the perfect foil for the Doctor. Then the TIME LORDS come back -- the people who are the real foils, to the point where they are the people he has spent the entire five seasons trying NOT to become... and in WoM, DID become. He thinks that he will die in one last act of defiance against his own race (a huge, heroic act, which will emcompass everything he thinks he stands for!), and he's ready for it. ("You die with me," says Rassilon. "I know," replies the Doctor, proudly and resolutely.) But the Master, in a single well-meaning moment, deprives him of the heroic death he'd always fancied for himself... and what's he left with?

Dying for Wilf.

So yeah, that speech is too proud and too biased and utterly Shakespearean in its self-indulgence... but it fits. It fits so goddam well.

No matter who else they love, who else they're attracted to, in the end, their puzzle pieces are only capable of fitting with each other.

That's exactly, EXACTLY it. I mean, okay, I still ship Ten/Rose like burning... but in the end, he had to rebuild himself to fit her life (however unintentionally), and in retrospect, as fucked up as that was, it was the only way they could have worked in the long run. The Doctor and the Master, though? Well. I don't have to explain it again. You did it all for me. :)

Subtlety? Oh, you poor dear, are you still hoping for subtlety from RTD? He hasn't had any of that since... huh. Okay, now I have to rewatch his eps and look for subtlety! Heeheehee.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Well fuck me. Okay, granted, I kind of subconsciously saw Ten's arc as being sort of an emotional downward spiral from Doomsday with a plateau of reasonable altitude during Donna and a high spike when Rose returned briefly, so when it came to this it's like absolute dead bottom. But all of your points are spot-on and so I'll now proceed to associate myself with a far better-supported argument. EoT rewatch with new perspective, coming up sometime this week.

(I STILL FEEL LIKE ALL THE LADIES GOT A BIT SHAFTED THOUGH)

Oh, I will never stop shipping Ten/Rose but for awhile now I've been more interested in reading and thinking about and exploring stuff that is less about shipping and more about friendships or about the rough patches and bumpy aspects of relationships. Like in the blackbird fic, looking at how each companion sort of tries to stay with the Doctor by mimicking something about him and carrying its results into their own lives.

Now I just have odd desires to compare House/Wilson to Master/Doctor. I'm blaming the migraine. (Ooh: both House and the Master have chronic conditions that make them jackasses, and both Wilson and the Doctor have no patience with that even as they are sympathetic and enable it. Also Wilson and the Doctor both like playing with earth girls but never quite can get the hang of a permanent relationship. House and the Master both like being known for their cleverness, while Wilson and the Doctor approach problems from a nurturing and personal perspective. Oh why am I doing this and where is the advil halp.)

Subtlety? Oh, you poor dear, are you still hoping for subtlety from RTD?

LOLOLOLOLOL FOREVER. OH SHUT UP I AM A RIDICULOUS IDEALIST. I mean, I still keep applying for jobs at the CIA, hoping for SUBTLE SUBTLE FLAMINGOS from RTD is easy. :P

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

Well, ya know, watch it once with my theory in mind, and see if that works any better for you. If it doesn't, then hey, to each her own interpretation, right? :)

As for the ladies... okay, I'll give you that one. I'm actually not really bothered by Martha/Mickey, because we have no idea when that takes place (a year from now? ten years from now?), and it feels right to me that Martha will fight till she's no longer able. Her journey started with a crush on the Doctor (seeking an end with him, I guess), and ended with learning that her strength lies in action, not in her relationship with him. She learned her lesson well, and she continues the fight, and I love her for it.

Rose... I loved it. You seemed to love it. Enough said.

Donna is fucking problematic. I'd rather they'd left her out of the episode entirely, to be honest. Either that, or done something heroic, even if she had to be mindwiped again after. I'm not satisfied with that at all.

Man, I want to read that blackbird fic again... and I kind of want to do a rewrite of my post-s4 TenII/Rose fic that reflects your take on the beach scene. I can't unsee it!

And, okay... the House/Wilson parallels? DUDE. SO FUCKING INTERESTING. You realize that you've just cast the DOCTOR as the MASTER'S companion, right? I WANT TO READ THAT FIC. No Advil for you! More of the crack! MORE MORE MORE!

And um. Yeah. Now I want an icon of RTD making one of his "I SO CRAZY" faces (preferably with jazz hands or something) with the caption "SUBTLE SUBTLE FLAMINGOS." Oh sweet baby Jesus, make it so.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

(http://img23.imageshack.us/i/subtleflamingos.jpg/)

And lo, my name tonight is Sweet Baby Jesus.

Oooohh Doctor as Master's companion? That blows my brain a little bit. You can see that brain is already blowing a bit anyway. I haven't watched House dedicatedly since the third season but from what I have seen, in terms of story arc too, House and Wilson have been sort of following the same arc- antagonistic best friends, then a bit of a fallout and House gets labeled crazy and ends up in the mental hospital, and now the two of them are really rebuilding their relationship in the wake of other people moving on without them. AND there was some episode I saw lately where Wilson got to have all the sort of brilliant deduction moments that House usually has- Waters of Mars and the crazy time-fucking, much?

Extrapolating roles a bit farther, Watson was the expositor for Holmes, making him actually voice his reasoning; Wilson is the sounding board for House, even when he has no clue what is going on (yeah in my mind all of House is just a Sherlock Holmes AU, tbh.) So what happens if you put the Doctor as the expositor for the Master? It sort of worked out that way in LotTL- it was gloating, yeah, but the Master had to have someone to announce to with all he was doing and why- which, yeah, is the typical companion function, to be the audience's ears and eyes. Then in EoT he actually straps the Doctor down and gags him just to make him listen. It's fucked up, but the roles are there.

Going back to what we saw in the goodbyes, while I liked most of the individual stories (sigh, Donna) I felt that as a whole it was one story of him checking up on each one of them, seeing that they were embarking on a romantic relationship, so therefore everything is okay. Except for Sarah Jane, whose wedding he recently ruined, but she gets to be someone's mother instead of someone's wife so that concludes the collection of all these women being okay. The implication rankles, that's all.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU. I will cherish this icon for all time. Or at least until it stops making me laugh. Which is at least 50 years from now.

Okay... what I know of H/W and H/W comes from having seen maybe 4 episodes of House, ever, from the Sherlock stories that I read in junior high, and from the Robert Downey Jr movie. So my comparison capabilities are quite limited. But from what you've said? Holy fuck, man, I want it. I want it BAD. (Which should be read as dirtily as possible, on account of the strapping down that happened. Well, there was also the "Listen, listen" scene, which is the ultimate Doctor As Sounding Board scene. The Master cannot define the parameters of his own madness without the Doctor there to tell him that the drums are real, because the Doctor is literally the only other being in the universe who can hear them. EEP.

Ooooh, that DOES rankle if you think of it that way. Shit. But my first viewing of those scenes wasn't in that light at all! My thought was that he went to say goodbye to each of them, bearing gifts. Martha's desire is to fight for the good; he saves her life so she can keep doing that. Sarah's desire is to keep her family safe (the family she almost didn't have because the Doctor left her), so he gave her that. Jack's desire is ALWAYS a sex partner, so he gave him that. Donna's desire is comfort, so he gave her that. And yeah, it all revolves around relationships -- but it kind of has to, because it's about relationships for the Doctor, too. These are people with whom he's been intimate in one way or another, and he's FINALLY giving himself the gift of acknowledging that he means something in their lives. His reward. I think, if possible, that he would have rewarded himself with being able to keep him around, but he knows that that's not an option for him, and never will be. So he makes sure that they're able to keep the people/things that THEY care about most. Meh. That's how I see it, anyway.

Donna, though... what a wasted opportunity. I made my peace with her ending in season 4, but if they were going to bring her back, I wanted it to be a coda to that ending, not just a couple of throwaway lines. Her entire story revolved around how she was a parallel to the Doctor and got burned when she got too close... but what I wanted to see here was some kind of confirmation that she could be awesome even without remembering him. She could still get married and think the lottery ticket is a shit gift and make fun of Nerys and all that... but couldn't she have had a little moment of surprising herself with a tiny bit of world-saving? BAH.

Man. Holmes and Watson. Master and Doctor. Right....

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I saw it that way on my first and third thoughts too. It was just my second thoughts that crept up and went "Wait a second... did they just pull a then they all hooked up and therefore lived happily ever after there?" Merrrr. On the whole though I really am not displeased with how things went for each of them, and how the Doctor got to save their worlds in little ways, too, which is SO fitting. In the end, it isn't the epic world-saving that is the downfall and redemption. It's the precious personal connections that matter so much.

Love, love your Donna parallels post. I don't know how I didn't see that the first time (or maybe I did and don't remember; the severity of my headaches over the past six weeks and the resulting forgetfulness and retardation and crazy is making me sympathize to a perhaps unhealthy degree with Donna and the Master in these eps. FUN HUH?) but I especially like how Agatha Christie was a foreshadowing and a real note of hope. She really just had no role in EoT, and I was very surprised there wasn't some tiny but vital clue they had to dig out of her head before going back to amnesia or something. OR JUST DROPPING HER INTO SERIES THREE OF ASHES TO ASHES AND REVEALING HER AS THE REASON EVERYBODY'S TIME TRAVELING. We totally get all sorts of room for Donna headcanon now though.

If you know the character dynamics even by rumor on House/Wilson and Holmes/Watson, you've pretty much got it down, the storylines aren't as important. (However: Watson freaking the fuck out when Holmes shows up after being presumed killed by Moriarty at Reichenbach Falls = priceless. "The Adventure of the Empty House", if you want to read it.)

But yeah, I love how the Master needs the Doctor to listen- he really is the only one who can validate the Master's experiences and thoughts, otherwise he really is just crazy. And while nothing will convince me to get into the "which companion is most equal to the Doctor" argument, the memories of being a Time Lord are really something that no one else can share with the Doctor. They kind of make each other real, no matter how much they have trouble getting along.

And like with Cor and Aravis in Narnia, then they got married so as to argue more conveniently! :P

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

Ahhhh okay, I really need to watch Ashes to Ashes, and then find That Donna Fic and understand it, because yow, brainsplodey.

Eh, I always hate the "which companion is the most equal" arguments, because there's no right answer. They're ALL his equal in different ways. I'd say Donna has the most parallels (obviously! hm, were we reading each other's LJs when I posted that? who knows. I've missed millions of things too, so whatever), but Martha has the same Saving The World thing going on, and Rose has the compassion for the little people, and Jack has the burden of having lived too long, and I could go on and on and on. But yeah. The Time Lord thing. Not enough fics explore that, dammit. Though maybe after EoT, people will start! YIPPEE.

What up with your headaches, dear? Something awry with you?? :(

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Yes yes yes watch Ashes to Ashes. Not only is it brilliantly interesting, it is really well directed and uses actual filmmaking technique. I know, in a tv show! A2A is the follow-up to Life on Mars, which is also incredible.

Haha exactly about the Most Equal thing. I just tend to hit 'back' when I see that sort of thing starting.

I'll probably make a personal post soon about the headaches, but yeah, this month has been tough. The Master's constant pounding in his head, Donna's memory problems and probable frustration. :P

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

Ooooh, no, I know what Ashes to Ashes is -- I just haven't seen it yet! And I will eventually, because hello, Gene Hunt, but JOHN SIMM ISN'T IN IT, so that took a bit of edge off the urgency. So.

Good lord, woman, are you hearing Time Lord heartbeats in your head? ::backs away slowly::

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

No, not Time Lord heartbeats. I don't think. Unless it's one with an arrhythmia. I feel sorry for the Master, the poor dear doesn't get nearly the variety of brain thumpings that I do.

Okay, well, there aren't really significant spoilers for A2A in my two Donna/Gene fics so far, only that there is a woman named Alex in the eighties which you probably were aware of. AND KEELEY HAWES SHOULD BE REASON FOR URGENCY, KEEEEEEEEELEY.

[montycrowley.livejournal.com]

I'm going to jump into your conversation because I was looking at your icon, and it reminded me that I wrote "SUBTLE, SUBTLE FLAMINGOS" in the disclaimer a badfic that I wrote when I was fourteen.

That was seven years ago.

RTD, WHY ARE YOU SCRAPING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE IDEA POOL, I REALLY DO TRY TO LOVE YOU.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

No, no, that was me. I suppose your flamingos lurked in the dark closet of my mind and sprang out, honking, when thunderemerald started laughing at me for expecting subtlety. I'm to blame for secretly pimping you everywhere.

SHUT UP IT WAS NOT BADFIC AND I MAY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT A FEW WEEKS AGO TO SHOW NINA THE FANNISH EQUIVALENT OF YOUR CUTE BUT EMBARRASSING BABY PICTURES