current theories on doctor who and mr cleverdick moffat

[intrikate88]

I've seen Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and A Town Called Mercy. The first was better than I was expecting! Amy with her own set of flirting companions! This is cool, yes. A Town Called Mercy... felt more like it was trying to be Firefly and failed on about every front. I don't even feel like talking about all the problematic stuff that came up, go look at shinyopalsand _thirty2flavors if you want to read about it. Mostly I just felt like there was supposed to be this great theme of justice and mercy in the ep... and it never really got trimmed down to make sure that theme came through.

But besides all that, I have a current idea on the episodes, and how Eleven said he was 1200 in 7x03, meaning he has been larking around with the Ponds for three hundred years if he isn't a total and complete liar (a definite possibility), and stuff that's going on. The episodes don't connect, they stand alone. Amy competantly carries a gun in episode two, and nearly shoots her own foot off twice in episode three. Eleven jettisons Filch or whatever his name was off to die in episode two, and lets everyone off the hook in episode three, with no real explanation of why.

Series six proved that Moffat wasn't afraid to fuck around with the timeline and have a much older Doctor in the first episode and then bring in his younger self to fulfil a circular time loop. We know that next week's ep is going to be about the Ponds making a choice of which life to live in full time, with them leaving in the end. 

What if we are watching the episodes out of order? 

What if Amy can use a gun in Dinosaurs because she picked one up in Mercy? What if Jex (?) talking about Amy's ~motherly eyes~ in Mercy was what made her think that really it was Rory wanting to be a father that mattered, and she had had the opportunity to be a mother taken from her forever, so she pushed him away to their divorce in Asylum of the Daleks? I think I keep seeing these sad looks Eleven is giving Amy when she doesn't see... what if he's already past the point where they leave him, maybe even far past it, but he misses them and wants to say goodbye somehow (since Ten's goodbye montage worked so well, why not give it another go?) and make sure they'll have an okay life before he leaves for good. So he's a little sloppy because he can't remember everything, he's a little desperate to try to do the right thing and one day that feels like giving second chances to unethical scientists and the next it means blowing up a human/person trafficker and the next he'll trust a Dalek if it means that it saves Amy and Rory's marriage, because otherwise Amy is going to be alone. 

Of course, it's a damn stupid idea in television to go, haha, I broadcast the episodes out of order and you didn't even know! Isn't this just so clever and novel for time traveling?but I think we have conclusively proven that damn stupid ideas for broadcasting that no one can follow are what Moffat wallpapers his wing of the BBC with. 



So I hope people weren't actually barbaric enough to send THAT many death threats Moffat's way, because not cool, dudes, but I cannot say I'm exactly shedding any tears over his deleted Twitter.

Comments

[lady_songsmith]

It's an interesting theory, and if he actually did it, I'd be impressed, but I think it's too complex for Moffat. Amy carries a gun in Dinos and shoots her foot in Mercy because that's what was cool and/or funny. Looking for plans in Moffat's seasons is ultimately futile, I think; he's so much more the fanboy playing with his action figures perpetually going, "oooh! and THEN!"

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

I can't decide if it's complex or twisted and nonsensical. Complex is too much for the Moffster, but "hur hur look what I did there" is definitely up his alley, especially if it involves timelines that don't exist or looping back around to future or past versions of characters or whatever will fuck up timelines the most.

Amy carries a gun in Dinos and shoots her foot in Mercy because that's what was cool and/or funny.

I don't disagree with that, either; even back at Girl in the Fireplace Moffat was saying he didn't bother reading the scripts for the episodes before or after, and he made it sound like he didn't care. I don't believe it's very far fetched to presume that he's spreading that dedication to storytelling to his writing team as well, if things like this are happening- sacrificing any growth or development for the cheap moment of amusement.

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

You know even if it's not true as along no one actually disproves it, we can just believe this is what happened no matter what since it makes sense...

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Makes more sense than the show, anyway! :P

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

I've seen this theory a lot and IDK what I think of it. I can't imagine how it would all fall into place in the end and personally (if I was the sort of person who cared much about Eleven anyway) I'd feel cheated if he and Amy had a big teary goodbye scene in ep 5 but actually all of eps1-4 occurred after, or whatever.

But it is Moffat so I don't think it's totally out of the question.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Haha, you think it would fall into place? Like the whole Doctor marrying River in the alternate universe to fulfill the closed time loop where she fake kills him in a giant robot suit and then spends her life in prison thing fell into place? ...oh my god, that looks still worse typed out, and I thought it couldn't get any worse.

I'd feel cheated if he and Amy had a big teary goodbye scene in ep 5 but actually all of eps1-4 occurred after, or whatever.

Well obviously, yes. But frankly I've felt cheated since series 5 started, so it's not all that much of my life wasted, I guess. Since I can't look forward to pretty much any brilliant character moments, all I have to hope for is that Moffat's ego gets big enough to float him to LA to make television, where he is promptly eaten alive.

[liliaeth]

Actually I think you missed an important point in the Gunnslinger ep. With the Doctor wanting to hand the doc over to the cyborg because he's tired of his his mercy towards the bad guys keeps costing innocent lives and he's going to keep his mercy for the victims. (which is why he killed the bad guy in the ep before it, Amy just wasn't there to stop him because she didn't know what he was doing)

It's only Amy's standing up for the doc that makes him change his mind.

[intrikate88.livejournal.com]

Yes, kind of? But first of all, when the Doctor has gone down paths like this before, such as in The Runaway Bride, yes, he unflinchingly watched as he killed the Racnoss and her progeny who were going to destroy earth. And the filming of that, an extreme low angle through the flames that made him look like some god of destruction or hell, which was swiftly followed by Donna saying "you need someone" to keep him from being that person. But when he killed Solomon, when he only didn't kill Jex because Amy was there... I really did not get the impression that the show was in any way condemning his attitude that it was his right to stand as judge, jury, and executioner.

And secondly, what made him want to kill Jex in the first place was when he found out about his victims, the people he turned into weapons. He wanted to demand and carry out justice for the victims. But when Amy changed his mind and he told the boy with the gun that violence only begets more violence, it seemed as if those victims that he was all fired up about were forgotten. Last season, in The God Complex, he seemed to reach some sort of conclusion about not being the god that people trust, have faith in, and ask for judgement from, but yet I don't see that idea of humility carried over into his decisions after that point. He is not really dealing with whether he has the right to play god when he is just a traveling man, no better and sometimes quite a lot worse than anyone else he encounters.

But I had hoped he would still be the man who thought that two people getting a cab in the rain and getting married was incredible, who thought that the short-lived humans in his life looked like giants and not grasshoppers... but I don't see that man much anymore.