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*curls up and dies, a little bit, inside*

Date: 2009-08-05 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orange-crushed.livejournal.com
Otherwise known as WRITER'S BLOCK: WE ARE OFFICIALLY OUT OF IDEAS.

Date: 2009-08-05 02:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i can understand you dont like twilight but is it right to mock it?

i like twilight. i dont love it but i have read the books and they are good. so just because it has alot of fans who happen to think of twilight 24-7 and can be anoying and its all over the news...
omg i totally just swiched sides on this argument. ummm okay i think il just leave it as undiceded. or if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all

Date: 2009-08-05 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-trombonista.livejournal.com
Sparkly vampires are always okay to mock.

Date: 2009-08-05 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com
Thank you. You are correct.

Date: 2009-08-05 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illianaka.livejournal.com
Well, maybe in the way it's not right to mock mentally challenged kids... but come on, the grave dug itself.

Date: 2009-08-05 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com
I mock the books because they are not good. They are extremely poorly written, using all the worst tropes of fantasy and young adult novels, and usually editors weed out this sort of rubbish before it gets as far as a publisher. Having worked as an editor in a literary agency myself, I can tell you that these books are a fluke, popular more due to a skilled marketing team than any inherent quality in the books themselves. Additionally, I find the books a bad influence on the young women who look to Bella as some sort of person of value; she has no personality or character, only existing for an emotionally manipulative man who has been otherwise unable to maintain relationships. He also threatens her with violence. He's also dead. Bella's other options, beside necrophilia, involve bestiality, or suicide. She does not consider a career, university, but longs only to end her life. She has a dangerously dependent relationship with Edward and seeks to sever all ties with an outside life. These are all the signs of an incredibly abusive relationship... and girls all over the world are holding them up as a paragon of romance. I'm genuinely afraid to see the effect this has on the young women who are on the verge of going into relationships, but are too inexperienced and naive to recognize how dangerous this sort of match is.

There are annoying fangirls in every fandom; I usually don't let them sway my views on the source material itself. I do, after all, have a degree in literature, and a mind of my own.

Unlike, say, Bella.

Date: 2009-08-05 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andi-horton.livejournal.com
I can tell you that these books are a fluke, popular more due to a skilled marketing team than any inherent quality in the books themselves.

You kindly skirt around the fact that the education system today has ensured that the majority of children trapped therein lack the ability to critically approach a text and, due to sheer lack of exposure thereto, wouldn't know great literature if it came up and bit them on the nose.

When we see Homer taught in high school, maybe the Cullens will be rightly relgated to little piles of sparkly dust. Until then, I am afraid we will see ever more of this sort of thing.

Date: 2009-08-05 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com
Yes, but... but... I live in hope! And hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without the words until I eat it for Sunday supper and think about how Emily Dickenson was all with the supervirginity and jonesing for some Thoreau dick (I think it was) which is about just as icky as all this.

*weeps* I wish people had any analytical abilities whatsoever.

Date: 2009-08-05 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andi-horton.livejournal.com
Emily Dickinson said her companions were "hills, the sundown and a dog" for which I can forgive her innumerable crimes. Lusting after Thoreau doesn't even rate a top twenty mention!

Beauty crowds me til I die. Beauty, mercy have on me! But if I expire today, let it be in sight of thee . . .

I think she's awesome. And not just cause we are supervirgins together :P

But I am 110% with you on the dream of a world where people can analyse.

Edited because you made me spell her name wrong, you bad influence.
Edited Date: 2009-08-05 03:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-08-06 02:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com
This is indeed my precise issue with them -- that they romanticize an abusive, stalking relationship. If he's not good to you, he's not good for you, to quote, of all people, James Marsters on the portrayal of stalking Spike and how uncomfortable it made him in BtVS.

Date: 2009-08-06 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com
James Marsters is not one of my favorite people, being a self-absorbed twat and all, but I did like him very much for that statement. Men SHOULD feel like that when it comes to stalking abusive sorts of behaviors, not like they're expected to do that as a figure of romance.

Have you seen Buffy vs. Edward (http://blip.tv/file/2261825)? It's so perfect.

Date: 2009-08-06 02:56 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com
Love Buffy vs. Edward. Loved it. Angel certainly got all broody and stalky and evily, but then she had the good sense to Kill Him. Sigh. Those were the days, when vampires were bad and girls kicked their butts.

Date: 2009-08-06 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com
Exactly! Killing him when he was like that was nothing but benefit for all involved, cause it certainly improved his disposition and outlook for going to LA.

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